sepositus 3 days ago

Not sure what experience OP has, but I’ve never been on a team of devs who were actually interested in doing anything beyond writing code. It’s typically like pulling teeth just to get them to accept a minuscule portion of responsibility for delivery.

  • riehwvfbk 2 days ago

    Oh, we are interested all right. But doing ops work is career poison to a dev and so it can only be done in exceptional circumstances.

    • mmarian 2 days ago

      Not sure why your comment was downvoted since it's true. If developers were told that ops work would lead to better comp, rather than the latest new framework, then they'd gladly learn it.

skuxxlife 2 days ago

Part of the problem is that when ops is doing their job well, nobody notices. You get a party when the regular devs ship a big new feature, but no-one really celebrates when you have five nines of availability for the year.

Personally I’m a big advocate for devs doing a rotation on an ops-focused team so they better understand the full picture of professional software development. Hopefully they learn that it takes more than code in an editor to create a product.

28304283409234 3 days ago

No, because the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. And you are the one making it whole.

channel_t 2 days ago

I will say that it can definitely very much be a bullshit job if your org structure is optimized for bullshit. Like 80% of QA jobs are the result of hierarchical bullshit pipelines, and certainly no small percentage of dev roles too.