Just last week I was fiddling around with a tangentially related idea. I made some modifications locally to my setup so that when browsing a .org file in eww, org-html-export-as-html would render it in the buffer as HTML directly. eww doesn't really support much styling via shr, so I was working on adding some basic css parsing to expand the range of expression for an org-based blog approach.
Many people export their org file based blogs to HTML and then publish them, but my thought would be to skip that and instead provide a path for eww to directly render org files, cutting out my html export stopgap.
Sounds a bit like the idea that Bluesky started out with. I don't really get why specifically org mode though, sounds like you could be doing the same thing with a simple Markdown file. And while you're at it, why not just use HTML and read your friends' blogs in the browser?
Because that would require leaving emacs, I guess.
Just a guess. I'm a Vim user so unlike emacs users I do know how to shower but like emacs users I can't manage to carry a conversation with someone in person. We only think partly alike.
In the end, Streaming Services have proven to be nothing more than advertising platforms scattered with brief moments of content. The ads outweigh the content making it less cost effective than going back to Cable, which is still terrible also. Hence the need to pirate and control what content you see.
If this takes off and becomes mainstream, will you show some inclusiveness towards poor people like me who will dare editing their org social files with an editor like Kate?
This seems less "decentralized social network" and more "html-less www with extra steps," especially since it's only going to allow socializing between the specific types of people who fall within 3 very specific Venn diagram circles who 1) use emacs, 2) use org-mode, and 3) want to go through the trouble of hosting their own section of the network.
Try as I might, I have not been successful in getting my wife to use IRC. I guess I should take that as a sign that she just doesn't want to talk to me...
I've observed that Unix itself was a social networking platform. Your Unix account was your identity across many services: email, finger, USENET, talk, etc. And it was distributed. And didn't rely on cruft like ActivityPub.
Totally! ident alongside IRC too. So many reinvented wheels. (Side note- I'm a little sad that https is the only protocol used for everything anymore).
Finally a social network that only true nerdy people will ever join, I might just finally pick up emacs again.
What about Mastodon?
(I'm, like, 80% joking)
Just last week I was fiddling around with a tangentially related idea. I made some modifications locally to my setup so that when browsing a .org file in eww, org-html-export-as-html would render it in the buffer as HTML directly. eww doesn't really support much styling via shr, so I was working on adding some basic css parsing to expand the range of expression for an org-based blog approach.
Many people export their org file based blogs to HTML and then publish them, but my thought would be to skip that and instead provide a path for eww to directly render org files, cutting out my html export stopgap.
Sounds a bit like the idea that Bluesky started out with. I don't really get why specifically org mode though, sounds like you could be doing the same thing with a simple Markdown file. And while you're at it, why not just use HTML and read your friends' blogs in the browser?
Org mode is far more structured than markdown. Structured enough that so you can naturally store data in, and easily access/edit it later.
Whenever someone tries to do something similar in markdown, they have to invent an extension of markdown to do it.
Yes markdown is simply about formatting text. Org is a data format.
I think you can use whatever. The markdown is very org mode like.
Because that would require leaving emacs, I guess.
Just a guess. I'm a Vim user so unlike emacs users I do know how to shower but like emacs users I can't manage to carry a conversation with someone in person. We only think partly alike.
In the end, Streaming Services have proven to be nothing more than advertising platforms scattered with brief moments of content. The ads outweigh the content making it less cost effective than going back to Cable, which is still terrible also. Hence the need to pirate and control what content you see.
think you replied on the wrong post friend.
Which is funny, because my mind filled in the word "social media" and I thought it was a fair point, until I got to the word "Cable".
If this takes off and becomes mainstream, will you show some inclusiveness towards poor people like me who will dare editing their org social files with an editor like Kate?
While an interesting idea, it's kind of niche. I somehow doubt that this will become mainstream, even among techies.
It sounds more like a blog than a network, I think. From way back:
http://ahungry.com/blog/2013-04-01-blogging-with-org-mode.ht...
This seems less "decentralized social network" and more "html-less www with extra steps," especially since it's only going to allow socializing between the specific types of people who fall within 3 very specific Venn diagram circles who 1) use emacs, 2) use org-mode, and 3) want to go through the trouble of hosting their own section of the network.
I guess this is an internet for the folks who are still annoyed by the Eternal September?
I thought that was Gemini: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol)
Gemini is for hipsters who want to look like they like Gopher, but can't live without their cat pics.
(Said in jest, of course)
And also 4) somewhat want to talk to other people ― but not that much that they'd be ready to exit Emacs.
> but not that much that they'd be ready to exit Emacs.
There's great news for the people who want to talk to other people and NOT exit emacs - you can get IRC built straight in.
https://github.com/emacs-circe/circe
Try as I might, I have not been successful in getting my wife to use IRC. I guess I should take that as a sign that she just doesn't want to talk to me...
There is a telegram client for emacs: telega.el https://github.com/zevlg/telega.el
The installation instructions are scary but It has been straightforward to install melpa version via use-package with telega-server in docker.
and a Matrix client! https://github.com/alphapapa/ement.el
Sort of. There's Org for Vim users :)
This sure is a social network for a very small and specific set of people.
In other words, it's a real social network.
I feel like https://github.com/buckket/twtxt didn't get enough love when it was released. Registry hosting doesn't seem to be any harder than DNS.
> harder than DNS
Oh, so extremely hard then.
Reminds me of .plan files from back in the day.
Well, there is https://plan.cat ...which, hosts a user's plan files. :-)
I guess think of it as a little microblog for displaying one's plan file?
This is kind of neat, thanks for sharing.
We're rewriting the books. finger was the first social network!
I've observed that Unix itself was a social networking platform. Your Unix account was your identity across many services: email, finger, USENET, talk, etc. And it was distributed. And didn't rely on cruft like ActivityPub.
Totally! ident alongside IRC too. So many reinvented wheels. (Side note- I'm a little sad that https is the only protocol used for everything anymore).
Still is if you have an account on sdf.org.
We kind of already have groups in Gnus... I even messaged one group, like twice in my life.
What does it solve compared to a normal plain HTML blog?
There seems to be a function to generate a feed based on the posts of the people you are following.
This filtered out those who 1) don’t use eMacs 2) don’t use org-mode
I suspect org-mode users are willing to go through an extra step if needed.
My notes are in .org if I want to share with someone else I export to .md and use the output
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This looks like a bad hybrid between RSS and Markdown. Am I missing something?